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FALCON



Joined: 19 Nov 1998
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 10, 1999 11:20 pm    Post subject: MTV Music Awards Reply with quote

Again I sat and watched to be only impressed by a fleeting moment of Joe Perry marching out, where Kid rock actually seemed to out-sing the burnt out Tyler. Nine inch Nails was OK, but lacking, man Nitro you hit it on the head, all I could imagine was Iced Earth in a huge production just melting the stage with fury and intensity. This is coming to an end in my opinion, though the intermingling of hip hop and rock is kinda neat (for a quick fleeting glance), but Tommy Lee, is way too street wise, and Lars hangin with Kid R, like their chums, hard to stomach, when Metallica was the innovators of much that is great in metal.

yea Death, agreeed they all stress the Party and were probably over edge (drunken or whatever), but that is what the current pop music is all about, though heaviness and musicianship don't dwell in these parts. I agree with you totally, bring in at least one production oriented heavy hitter to at least keep it balanced, this is getting way too old.
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DeathtofalseMetal



Joined: 18 Nov 1998
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 10, 1999 11:32 pm    Post subject: MTV Music Awards Reply with quote

Just to further depress you, I read an article the other day about how rap sells way more records than any other genre of music. Second is country. Good old "rock" music has been declared dead by the music industry. I'm sure "metal" doesn't even appear on the radar.

It's sad but true; the reason we saw almost nothing but rap last night is because that is what the overwhelming majority of people want to see.

I'd also urge you to check out your local access cable. I think Nitro was talking about this recently. My cable up here showed an entire live vintage Helloween show last weekend. There are at least 2 other shows here that regularly show metal -- and I'm talking the good stuff.
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Metalfilm1



Joined: 15 Aug 1999
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 1999 1:42 am    Post subject: MTV Music Awards Reply with quote

People, the tide is turning NOW. Metal sales (yes, including Limp) are up 100-plus percent in 1999 alone, who knows what a year will hold in store?
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LEV1ATHAN



Joined: 05 Apr 2000
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Location: Louisiana

PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 1999 2:00 am    Post subject: MTV Music Awards Reply with quote

eMpTyV used to be the thing here. I remember when I first saw Dokken's video "Breaking The Chains", and then "Into The Fire". The Iron Maiden videos, Tesla, Def Leppard, Ratt, Motley, heh, you get the point. So much cool music was being played "back then". But that was cool music "to us". And to most of us, it is STILL cool music. Our music will not jump out of hallowed ground and take over the souls of the world. It just won't happen. It's like I always said to all of you, it's right here, in your heart... and there it will stay, because the "metal heads" of today, are not us... frankly, I think I like things the way they are, to a certain degree. It brings hope and excitment into the genre... "hoping" for a new album or concert appearance by a band thats still together, being "excited" when it happens, or when you finally get to actually see an old video. It's kinda like when ya hold out during sex, the ending climax is always better... forget about eMpTyV, they are a$$hole$ and they always will be. We have our salvation before us, and more sprouting up here and there, Hard Radio being the best though!

Hang Tough People...(_E\/|/\TH/\N
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nitro4040



Joined: 14 Jan 1999
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 1999 6:01 pm    Post subject: MTV Music Awards Reply with quote

L,
yes mtv used to play those songs and videos. But when they did, they also played rap, and dance, and new wave, and modern rock, etc.. now they pretty much exclude anything that isnt rap or dance
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Fatalcharm



Joined: 18 Dec 1998
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 1999 6:39 pm    Post subject: MTV Music Awards Reply with quote

Mtv has never changed their view towards music. They are a commercial institution. They are going to play whatever sales. In the 80s metal sold so they played it. Beauty is in the eye......yada yada. But to me right now its ugly. Its good to see they stayed true to form. I guess?
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Misticmyst73



Joined: 12 Aug 1999
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Location: Phoenix,NY Oswego

PostPosted: Sun Sep 12, 1999 10:41 am    Post subject: MTV Music Awards Reply with quote

Mtv Hmmmmm I thought the M stands for music not manure which is all it is thease days.Maybey if there was a station that showed metal it would become popular again.People have no way of knowing what other kinds of music there is out there other than what they hear on the radio or mtv which is Rap/country/or plane old rock/pop.Hopefully some station would take the hint and play metal again thats the only way for metal to be popular again for a mass majority.
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SpiritOnParole



Joined: 02 Aug 1999
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 12, 1999 12:49 pm    Post subject: MTV Music Awards Reply with quote

Metal doesn't have to be popular to be considered good music. Prior to the "Kaboom" incident, I posted in another thread that, for some, there's a certain appeal to liking non-mainstream music. If metal became everyone's music of choice, there would be even more KoRn and Limp Bizkit-type artists trying to cash in on the trend. I'd prefer for my music to stay out of the mainstream and remain marginally uncorrupted than for it to become the hottest thing since -- dare I say it -- capri pants.

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EXCITER



Joined: 25 Jul 1999
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Location: Williamsburg, VA

PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 1999 6:34 am    Post subject: MTV Music Awards Reply with quote

Spirit -

After reading all the above, I must say that you summed up the situation perfectly. Who cares what's popular? Why are we crying that our music wasn't on the award show? Screw that! As long as they don't take it away from us, I'm happy. I don't need to see it on MTV to say "Gee, my band is the best!". When I go see my bands in concert and the venue is packed, I'm happy!

EXCITER
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