SW: As far as I can recall, Trouble, and perhaps Pentagram, were really the first and only two American bands at the time (early to mid '80s) playing a Sabbath-influenced brand of metal which was then coined "doom metal." [Of course, in Europe, at that time, there were tons of great Sabbath influenced metal bands like NWOBHM greats Angelwitch, Witchfinder General, Legend, Aragorn etc., as well as Swedish doom metallers Candlemass] Today, there is a major "doom metal" or "stoner rock" trend all over the US (particularly in the southern California desert regions) where as in the '80s, playing Sabbath-influenced metal was taboo. Do you feel Trouble has had a major impact on these new-breed "stoner rock" bands?

Bruce: Going by the bands I've talked to and the articles I've read...I guess so! I've read articles where bands have said that we were a major influence-like that band Orange Goblin, apparently they're big Trouble fans. And there's other bands that we know personally, like Cathedral, who were big Trouble fans as well.

SW: I've been a big Trouble fan myself, even before the band released their debut on Metal Blade in '84. I remember receiving a great live recording on cassette from a guy I traded tapes with in Chicago by the name of Wade Brooks.

Bruce: Yeah, Wade...wait...is this Bob Nalbandian from Headbanger magazine?? [Referring to my old metal fanzine I did in the early '80s]. I think we've met before...

SW: Yeah, we met several years ago at a party at Brian Slagel's house. That's funny that you remember! So, have you played in other noteworthy bands or projects outside of Trouble and Supershine?

Bruce: I recorded an industrial metal project called Generation. It wasn't really my project; I was just hired as a guitarist. It came out on a Christian label, and on Metal Blade, but I don't think it really made any waves.

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